And he also sells nutritional supplements and hair products online. MARANTZ: He is a lawyer and a misogynist and a married guy with kids who lives in Southern California. So let's start with - who is Mike Cernovich? You were with Mike Cernovich, who made the whole Hillary-is-sick, Hillary-has-a-neurological-problem meme go viral. GROSS: I want to get to a good example of what you are covering. But no, I think we're pretty much in for what we were in for last time. There have been a couple of little loopholes that have been closed here and there. Do you think enough has changed to prevent that from happening again as we face the 2020 election?ĪNDREW MARANTZ: No, definitely not. Your book is about disinformation, propaganda on social media, trolling before and after the election of Trump. Andrew Marantz is the author of the new book "Antisocial: Online Extremists, Techno-Utopians, And The Hijacking Of The American Conversation."Īndrew Marantz, welcome to FRESH AIR. His latest articles are about what social media platforms have been doing and have declined to do to prevent purveyors of false news and smears from exploiting social media during the 2020 election.
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Marantz has also been reporting on social media platforms, like Facebook, Twitter and Reddit, that claim they're dedicated to free speech but have vulnerabilities that have allowed them to become the primary means for spreading disinformation.
He watched how extremist memes and lies were created and went viral, and he profiled the people creating the means.
Marantz is a staff writer for The New Yorker and started this reporting project during the 2016 presidential campaign. He's embedded with the people he describes as the trolls and bigots and propagandists who are experts at converting fanatical memes into policy. My guest Andrew Marantz has spent the past three years reporting on the alt-right's use of social media.
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